Daily Dribble: 2008 NCAA Tournament Projection
We're only a week through the 2007 Big Dance.. but its never too early to start thinking about next year's Tournament. Here's an early projection of the 2008 NCAA Tournament field:
Big East (8) - Louisville - (DePaul, Marquette, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Providence, UCONN, West Virginia)**
Pac-10 (6) - UCLA - (Arizona, Stanford, USC, Washington, Washington State)
SEC (6) - Kentucky - (Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, LSU, Tennessee)
ACC - UNC (5) - (Clemson, Duke, Georgia Tech, NC State)
Big 12 (4) - Kansas - (Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Texas)
Big Ten (4) - Ohio State - (Illinois, Indiana, Michigan State)
Missouri Valley (3) - SIU - (Bradley, Wichita State)
WAC (3) - New Mexico State - (Fresno, Nevada)
A-10 (2) - GW - (Xavier)
CAA (2) - George Mason - (VCU)
Mountain West (2) - BYU - (San Diego State)
One-Bid Leagues (20)
America East - Vermont
Atlantic Sun - ETSU
Big Sky - Montana
Big South - High Point
Big West - UCSB
Conference USA - Memphis
Horizon - Butler
Ivy - Yale
MAAC - Siena
Mid-Con - Oakland
MAC - Akron
MEAC - Hampton
Northeast - Sacred Heart
Ohio Valley - Eastern Kentucky
Patriot - Bucknell
Southern - Davidson
Southland - Northwestern State
SWAC - MVSU
Sun Belt - Western Kentucky
WCC - Gonzaga
Next: Georgetown, Iowa, Rhode Island, Syracuse, Texas A&M, Utah State
** I had originally omitted Marquette from the list by mistake.
Note: I'll be doing an updated projection later on in the summer once decisions about the NBA Draft are made. (ie, LSU will already have to be changed after the Glen Davis decision). A similar article went online a week or so back, but was lost due to site maintenance. Let me know in the comments section if you agree or disagree with the selections.
Comments
Yea, I assumed both Hibbert
Yea, I assumed both Hibbert and Green would be gone in the projection. I know what Hibbert said, but the farther they go and the more he keeps putting double-doubles and the further he moves up mock draft lists.. the better chance is that he'll leave. I kind of hedged my bet by putting them the next team in line..
Wow
I used to respect your opinion, and you usually know what you're doing, but this time you've proved your knowledge of college hoops is lacking...
Despite selection as the #1 overall seed in the NIT and winning tonight to make the NIT Final Four in NYC, despite one of the top 5 point guards in the nation (per rivals.com) and potential preseason all-American on the roster, despite 5 players averaging near, or over 10ppg, and despite adding...
*All-American and Top 20 (as a freshman) Louisville transfer Brian Johnson
*Red-shirted and coach's claimed "most talented freshman this year" Phil Turner
*Three Top 150 freshmen, all with tremendous upside
and DESPITE losing only 1 major role-player from this season (who arguably could be addition by subtraction due to consistently poor decision-making and ball-handling), you don't even have Mississippi State MAKING the NCAA's.
Are you crazy?!?!? Memphis went from the NIT's #1 seed two years ago to a 1 seed in the NCAA a year later.
With the absolute TREMENDOUS amount of talent and experience this team will have next season, it is insane to not add them to a list of expectant NCAA participants. This team should be among the favorites to win the SEC title, much less MAKE the NCAA's.
C'mon...show some sense.
With Davis since leaving
With Davis since leaving LSU, it makes the choice of LSU pretty questionable, and Mississippi State would most likely jump into that spot. Still, I didn't even see this the year's Dogs as a Bubble team this past year.. 64 RPI, only 1 Top 100 non-conference win (against TAMU-CC..), Only one Top 100 road win all year (LSU) and overall a rather mediocre season. Im not sure what the NIT proves beyond that it shows Mississippi State, like most mediocre BCS teams, will win games at home.. which we already knew since they were 13-3 there. Ultimately this is still just a bubble team next year.
Just like MSU was the 101st
Just like MSU was the 101st team in the nation this year, eh? Yet now you're showing them in the top 40's.
Hmmm...your opinion has been so accurate.
Like I said before, your basketball knowledge was completely demolished when you left MSU out of NCAA bid prediction. Most any other major sports writer will tell you (because they know something about the game) that State will be a contender for the SEC title, much less a lock for the NCAA tournament.
You've lost my readership - I won't be visiting this site any longer. You've proven I'm simply wasting my time. I'll be sure to spread the word, as well.
Good luck with that..
Good luck with that.. Anyways, 101 did obviously end up being a bit low.. but again, they ended up 64th in the RPI, so its not like we're talking about a Top 10 team here.
No Hoyas? Really?
Are you serious? I had to look at this 5 times to make sure you left out Georgetown. Then I see them on the "Next" line so obviously it wasn't an oversight on your part... you just actually think that Georgetown will not even make the Tournament next year? You realize that you are talking about a team that might be the best in America in 2006-07, right? If Green and Hibbert both stay, the Hoyas might be the preseason #1 team in the nation next year, and would certainly be Top 5. Let's assume Green leaves school, which he probably will. If just Hibbert stays, Georgetown will probably be a preseason Top 10 team next year. Now let's say Green and Hibbert both go pro, which is obviously what you are projecting. You are actually saying that a team of Wallace, Sapp, Summers, Macklin, Ewing Jr., Rivers, and incoming McD's AA's Austin Freeman and Chris Wright, among others, coached by John Thompson III, wouldn't even MAKE the field?? This team would finish behind Providence, UConn, and West Virginia in the Big East? Really? That's quite a claim. As you can tell, I strongly disagree. The Hoyas are loaded with young talent and have a lot more on the way. Get used to penciling them into the Tournament every year.
I've commented on this
I've commented on this below, but the omission of Georgetown took into account both Green and Hibbert leaving. This might end up being wrong obviously. (I'll be updating once draft decisions are finalized). Perhaps you feel they'd be a lock without those two, but I think they'd be right on the bubble along with teams like Providence, DePaul, etc. if both were gone.
Pac-10
I'm a bit curious as to how you drew your conclusions for the Pac-10..
Do you think Washington will really improve that much with one year, even with Spencer Hawes possibly leaving? Do you see Dentmon ever really 'getting it' ?
What about Arizona losing Radenovic, Shakur, and possibly Williams and Budinger?
Is Jordan Hill going to be able to provide what Ivan did?
Does Oregon fall out of the Pac-10 picture because of Aaron Brooks' departure? I would expect Porter to improve on his stellar freshman campaign... Add the fact that Malik Hairston (who should finally be healthy next year), Bryce Taylor, and Maarty Leunen will be seniors along with Chamberlain Oguchi.. Four out of five starters from a Sweet Sixteen team to out of the dance? I'm perplexed.
Are you assuming that Nick Young will stay in school or that O.J. Mayo, if he makes it there, will be able to pick up some of the slack that will be there with the absence of Young and Stewart.. Or do you assume both? If so, mark the Trojans for another deep run.
Do you see Washington State improving that much to match what should be visible improvement among the other teams? They were shaky this year and got bounced early.. They're under-taleneted and well-coached.. They play exceptional team ball but are at clear disadvantage talent-wise with the upper-ecehlon of Pac-10 teams..
UCLA will most likely hold serve.. Afflalo may go, but Shipp can step in with some help there, and Collison will be seasoned and ready to dominate.. Add Kevin Love into the mix to go with Mbah a Moute and Mata down low and they will have the most formidable front-court in the nation in my opinion depending on what Noah and Horford do with the Gators.
Stanford will depend heavily on the development of the Lopez twins and whether or not they can gain some discipline.. They are para-troopers at the moment and teams learned how to make them pay late in the season the second time facing them. Don't be surprised to see this trend continue next season..
Bottom line: I'm curious as to what made you leave Oregon off the list.. The way I see it shaking out follows:
UCLA - Contingent on Afflalo staying.. If not, the title is up for grabs.
USC - If Young stays, and Mayo makes it to school, they will be as talented as anyone in the nation.
Oregon - Porter will pick up Brooks' slack and only improve.. Either Chamberlain Oguchi (wing) or Joevan Catron get the fifth starting spot.. If it's Oguchi, then that will be four senior starters.
Arizona - If Williams and Budinger stay.. If one leaves, slate them for the sixth slot..
Washington - I see Hawes staying in all honesty.. I think he needs another year to develop his body and improve his draft stock.
Washington State - Although they're about seventh in terms of talent.. They play a very deliberate style of ball and have been coached on the defensive end extremely well.. They will miss Ivory Clark on defense a lot.
Stanford - Brook and Robin will begin to dominate.. They still need better perimeter play.
Arizona State - Still a couple years away.. Sendek has established a good style already, though defensive mentality, and already has a couple stud recruits on the way to Tempe..
Cal - Ryan Anderson will be the best player no one talks about in the Pac-10 yet again.. He's an absolute stud.
Oregon State - Beaver shmeaver..
Who gets in will be contingent on how everything else in the land shakes out but I see a guaranteed five in, with the possibility of up to seven.
I'm a huge Duck fan and was really pretty confused as to why you left them off.. The only reason I can fathom is your weighing how much Brooks' departure will hurt them.
Pac-10 was hard as heck to
Pac-10 was hard as heck to predict. In terms of what I counted in terms of the Draft, I counted Hawes, Marcus Williams, Afflalo, and Young all coming back. If Hawes leaves.. I'd knock Washington out (though I expect a major improvement out of that team next year.) It came down to Arizona or Oregon for the final spot. I like the Ducks.. but ultimately I couldn't go against the fact that Arizona simply makes the darn thing every year. Smart money says this streak will continue. I think the loss of Brooks will be pretty huge for Oregon.. Last 2 years the Ducks really underachieved, this year they exceeded expectations, and next year it should even out. ASU will only be better next year, and Cal will as well.. Its basically going to be a big mess. Plus even though 6 teams made it this year from the league, only 5 should have made it (Stanford was a joke).. so its conceivable only 5 make it next year too.
Fair enough..
I'll see ya next March to see what holds true.
I still think Oregon makes the dance rather easily.. Since you're profile says you're located in St. Louis, perhaps you will catch them this weekend and see live whether or not you think Porter is capable of filling the void that will be left by Brooks.










2008 Tournament Bids
The thought that Georgetown would not make the 2008 tournament team is obviously predicated on the belief that both Green and Hibbert will leave after this season. While it is likely that Green will leave, Roy Hibbert (and his parents) have repeatedly stated that he will be a four year Hoya. Other than Green, the Hoyas would not be losing any other player who has played more than 50 minutes all year long. In addition,they will add two McDonalds AA guards in Austin Freeman and Chris Wright.
The Hoyas will be a 2008 tournament team.