College Basketball: Coaches on the Hot Seat

Kansas State "doesn't have a squeaky clean reputation"??

Why do you say that? Point to one factual issue. And don't say that just because we hired Bob Huggins we are Thug U. After all, I don't see WVU anywhere on your asinine list.

And you have NO BBIQ. Frank Martin is the Xs and Os guy, assistant coach Dalonte Hill is the renowned recuiter.

Did you write this for your high school paper?

GREAT READ!!! spot on review of whats gonna be happening to kstates program without their money players. Is oregon ever gonna get rid of ernie kent?

Rob, do your homework before opening your mouth. If you would like to have a real conversation about the KSU athletic department, feel free to email me! Please, again DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

KSU is pretty much squeaky clean. They haven't been put on probation for basketball in 54 years. I guess now that the two Big 12 Kansan schools are now even (1-1) you are probably mixing Kansas State up with KU. You know the school that found itself a Lack of Inst. Control a few years ago and whose best player enjoys rubbing his junk on unsuspecting ladies in dorm elevators. Basically, just remember K-State=Kansas without all of the cheating and misconduct. TIA.

Soren

Do your homework Rob: Kansas State men's basketball hasn't been on NCAA probation in more than a half-century; KSU fans haven't seen a Wildcat team put forth the effort the '08 squad brings in nearly two decades; Frank & Co. landed an '09 class that, coupled with those players already in campus, will give a likely '08 postseason team a real shot at making a run in the Big XII; the recruiting hasn't been this good as KSU in, well, forever.

There are no current investigations and no hint of any to come, far from there being a fire there isn't even any smoke.

Whether or not Frank is a "very mediocre X’s and O’s guy" he's a hell of a recruiter and demands more effort from his players than any coach who's headed up the program in Manhattan since Jack Hartman. You seem to be mistaking Frank's preferred style of of play (defense first, transition second, set offense only if you have to) for a lack of coaching ability; from here it just appears that he's getting his chops from the last guy who passed through here. You know, the guy with the lifetime record of 617-222. Frank could to a lot worse than emulating that sort of approach to the game.

Do you just make stuff up. I would stay away from ksu.

whis whole thing is stupid noone thinks Martin is on the hot seat so do some research next time you moron. we are easily one of the best teams in the big 12 and its all because of Martin he cleaned up Bob tHuggins mess and he is a hero in Manhattan as long as we keep winning. one of these days you'll probably poop a brain so do the world a favor and scoop it out of the toilet and put it in your head so you can think about stuff before you write something really stupid like this trash article.

Frank Martin = Joke

Kansas State athletic department = Laughing stock.

Manhattan = dump

KSU coeds = cows.

All you K-State fans are a bunch of jokers. Any program that hires Huggins and Martin in succession loses all claims to talk about ethical practices. But I don't think he's cheated yet or that he will (boosters cheat after all, and coaches are innocent bystanders, just like when Martin was a HS coach), all i do think is that the administration was so afraid of losing Beasley that they hired an incompetent guy with no business being a head coach. Such is life when boosters make decisions.

1-1??? Congrats. Why don't you share with the rest of the class how long it took for you to beat KU in your OWN HOUSE. A Quarter of a CENTURY. 1-1??? Try 171 -90. Don't ever say you are even with Kansas is basketball. KSU fans love to cherrypick history when it comes to athletics. Practice what you preach. Why don't you do your own research on Kansas basketball before you say KSU & KU are now EVEN.

KSU National Championships: 0
KU National Championships: 5

KSU Final Fours: 2
KU Final Fours: 13

KSU Championship Appearances: 2
KU Championship Appearances: 9

No school has more conference championships that KU.
KU is the 3rd in most wins and in the top 5 of almost every NCAA Tournament statistic.

And no school in the Big 12 has a winning record against KU.

Don't ever put KSU in the same category as KU in basketball.

Or football since that record is KU by 30+ games over KSU.

In all fairness, I truly believe that Martin did a very nice job last season. Now, cutting through all the name calling, (nice to see all the KSU fans who view the site), let me address the things that were brought up.

First, in terms of the perception, and I stress perception, that KSU isn't "squeaky clean", that stems from the tenure of football coach Bill Snyder. That's one of the reasons that KSU hired its current lame-duck coach; because they needed to off-set the perception that KSU is a bit outside the rules, in general. You may not like it, but it is the truth nationally to objective fans.

Next, its a well-known fact in serious basketball circles that Martin's hiring raised more than a few eyebrows. From a strictly coaching standpoint many of those with high BBIQs thought and still feel that Martin is a fantastic recruiter, (he brought Beasley and Walker in to Manhattan), and a mediocre, at best, game coach. As to those who say that Martin does it right, (defense first, rebounding, team ball), most people in the know would look to a slew of coaches before looking at Martin; Coach K, Howland, Dixon, Knight and even Self.

In terms of bringing in coaches with clean resumes; seriously, the only people that wouldn't look at a back-to-back hiring of Huggins and Martin with a cynical eye are KSU fans. Martin was fired at a high school job for cheating for goodness sakes. And in terms of his Martin's recruiting "technique", I would venture to guess that I know a lot more about what happened at Notre Dame Prep with regard to Beasley than most. And I stand by the statement that KSU fans better hope that the NCAA doesn't come knocking over that particular recruitment.

lol, nice try but this is still poor journalism.

Martin didn't bring Beasley or Walker. Bob Huggins brought Bill Walker, and Dalonte Hill brought Beasley. NICE TRY! Also, do you have some facts as to what legendary head coach Bill Snyder ever did to cheat or "play outside the rules"? Please dude, your a joke... Before you run your mouth, you might want to have some facts to back it up. Thanks

Commiserate with their talent? Maybe commensurate with their talent? Don't strain your word bank to sound smart.

The Wildcats' fortunes definitely "went south this winter." No doubt Frank Martin is quaking on the hot seat after their performance this year. Oh wait, Frank actually did a pretty damn good job with the X's and O's this year, especially considering the lack of a #1 scorer and a Big 12 caliber big man. 9-7 and tied for 4th in conference. Yep, Frank's gonna get fired.

Let's see here: you're the only person, anywhere in America, who had Frank Martin anywhere close to the hot seat this year. The only person I've *ever* heard, other than Jayhawk fans, insinuate that Bill Snyder ran (runs) a dirty program.

K-State had such a need to "offset" their reputation, that they went and hired Snyder right back after firing the "lame-duck coach" they ostensibly hired to "clean things up," at least in your little universe.

BTW, we have yet to hear from the NCAA on Beasley's recruitment.

To summarize, not sure what happened up there in Minnesota to give you such a hard on against K-State, but given your mighty swing-and-a-miss on this call, let's hope you're on the "inferno list" for college sports "analysts," so that otherwise unsuspecting readers aren't led astray by your abject ignorance.

CX1b8J Great blog. Fantastic.