GameNight: Dayton vs Xavier

February 11th, 2009
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Feb 11 2009 - 7:00pm

 

Preview & Prediction: By Evan Dorey

Season:

35-14

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Atlantic-10 has only two teams with legitimate cases for an at-large bid to the NCAA tournament, both of which have recently suffered losses that have damaged their respective profiles. Well, tonight, #13 Xavier (20-3, 8-1) and #36 Dayton (21-3, 7-2) will each get the chance for a quality win, and a big gain in the A-10 standings, when the Musketeers make the short trip north to face the Flyers.

Each of these teams has a stellar record, but is coming off a disappointing loss. Xavier was 12-2 in the non-conference, including beating Memphis, Virginia Tech, Missouri and Cincinnati. The Musketeers started the A-10 season with 8 straight wins,  but lost a close game at Duquesne on Saturday. Dayton’s non-conference record is better than Xavier’s, but not as meaty. A win over Marquette is the only highlight, but it’s an important one, as the Flyers looked very good in beating up on the Golden Eagles. Dayton opened its conference schedule with a loss to an enigmatic UMass team, then reeled off 7 straight wins. This included beating the third contender for the conference title, St. Joe’s, but the streak came to a sudden halt with a surprise, double-digit loss at Charlotte.

 

In recent years, Sean Miller has established a solid recipe for offensive success at Xavier, and while this Musketeer offense is not one of his best, it’s still one of the conference’s best. Xavier does two things very well that earn it a lot of points: it gets to the free throw line more often than any team in the nation, and it makes a lot of its threes, over 40% from behind the arc. While the Musketeers don’t shoot a very high percentage from the line, the number of chances they get make up for the misses. The one trouble spot for them is turnovers; they consistently commit enough to reduce their efficiency. Dayton will do its best to exploit Xavier’s problems with the ball; forcing turnovers has been an important part of one of the A-10’s best defenses. The Flyers also stop a lot of shots, allowing under 43% from two and just 31.4% from three. Dayton sends opponents to the line a little too often for comfort, and that will be a big issue tonight.

 

Dayton remind me of a toned-down version of Louisville, in the sense that it has a very good  defense, coupled to a weak offense. Only St. Bonaventure and Fordham have been less efficient than the Flyers in the A-10, resulting in a lot of close, low-scoring games, even against lesser teams. I’ll start with the single bright spot in the Flyers’ attack, offensive rebounding: Dayton gets nearly 39% of its own misses, a very solid mark. Unfortunately, this skill gets a lot of practice, as the Flyers shoot quite from everywhere on the floor. A 47.3 eFG% is among the worst in the conference, and Dayton’s less-than-stellar ball control only further dents its offensive hopes. The real trouble for Dayton is that Xavier boasts the conference’s best defense, and will give the Flyers a handful on the interior, where the Musketeers lead the A-10 in defending the two-point shot and grabbing rebounds. It’s hard to see this matchup going well for Dayton, they will have to hope for an off-night from Xavier’s defense.

 

Xavier are led by a core of top-quality upperclassmen, and has a group of younger depth players that primarily serve as complements. The core is highlighted by joint leading scorers Derek Brown and B.J. Raymond. Brown is a very efficient inside player, but also shoots well over 45% from behind the arc. Raymond‘s percentages aren’t as good as Brown’s, but he’s still a strong shooter, over 40% from three. C.J. Anderson will be key to the Musketeers’ inside game, he takes almost all of his shots inside, and gets to the line an awful lot. If Anderson could get his percentage from the line back up to last season’s 67%, rather than the 59% it is right now, he’d be a huge offensive threat. Dante’ Jackson is a sophomore who leads the team in assists and steals, but has struggled to make shots and had a lot of trouble with turnovers. Jason Love is the fifth starter, but barely plays 20 minutes a game; despite this, the 6-9 junior leads Xavier in rebounding, and he’s a solid offensive option when he gets the ball. The bench hasn’t been too impressive for the Musketeers, but has some notable players. Freshman Terrell Holloway has been quite inconsistent, but as his career-high 16 points against Duquesne shows, he can explode at any moment. Jamel McLean is a good rebounder and inside scorer off the bench who shoots an ugly 41% from the free throw line. The most intriguing bench player may be freshman Kenny Frease, a 7-footer who has shown some offensive bursts and does pretty well on the glass.

 

Junior guard Marcus Johnson is the only offensive bright spot for the Flyers, he doesn’t take a lot of shots, but does well with the ones he does take. Johnson has done one of those things I love, holding his percentages even while increasing his role, a feat that has eluded Dayton’s top scorer, Chris Wright. Wright’s freshman season ended early with an injury, and a lot was expected from him this year. While he leads Dayton in both rebounding and scoring, he’s lost the efficiency that made him so good last year. Wright’s  predominantly an inside scorer, but has dropped below 50% on attempts from the field and below 70% from the line, after being much higher in both areas last year. Charles Little and Kurt Huelsman start alongside Wright in the frontcourt: both are solid rebounders, and Little is a decent scoring option. London Warren starts in the backcourt, and is a bit of an oddity, a 6’0” tall guard that hasn’t hit a three all year. He shoots under 40% from the field, but leads the team in assists. Rob Lowery takes a lot of shots when he comes in off the bench, but he really shouldn’t, he’s another low-percentage player. Chris Johnson is a quality depth player in the backcourt, a good shooter who averages nearly 6 boards in just 18-and-a-half minutes per game.

 

Dayton looks primed for a poor finish to the season, unless it can start to find some consistency with the ball. It wouldn’t surprise me to see the Flyers drop four or five games over the rest of the season, as their defense will be heavily tested over the remainder of the schedule. Xavier may have trouble putting up points, but they won’t need many to get an important road victory.

 

Winner: Xavier Margin: 4-8

 

-- Evan Dorey's game previews & rankings are based on Elo Ratings. Elo Ratings are fairly simple, all teams are assigned an initial number of points, which is the same for all teams, eliminating preseason bias. Then, as the season progresses, when a team wins it gains points, and when it loses it drops points. The amount of points that are gained or lost depend on the level of the opponent (beating a cupcake gets you little, beating #1 will be a big increase), the scoring margin of the game (which is capped), and the game’s location. To take a look at Evan's College Basketball Elo Ratings, visit his website or blog where he discusses the rankings along with other statistical observations about big games and interesting teams.

 

 

 

 

Editor's Early Preview

*Made on 02/06. Full preview by the GameNight staff coming soon!

 

Overshadowed by Duke at UNC tonight, the top two teams in the Atlantic 10 get together on the Deuce. Dayton doesn't necessarily need the win as they should be a Tourney lock, but you never know, which is why a big effort in front of the television cameras wouldn't hurt.


Early Prediction: Dayton

Comments

Evan Dorey's picture

One thing to note on this

One thing to note on this game: I went through efficiency margins (that is, OEff - DEff) for A-10 conference play, and was quite surprised to see the following rankings:

1.Xavier +0.196

2. Temple +0.119

3. Duquesne +0.075

4. Saint Joseph’s  +0.074

5. Rhode Island +0.073

6. Richmond +0.022

7. Dayton +0.011

Now I don't think Dayton is actually the 7th best team in the league, but they certainly havent played anywhere near the standard of Xavier. Ken Pomeroy has them ranked as the 4th 'luckiest' team in the nation.

This is mostly due to playing close games against relatively poor teams like St. Louis, GW, Fordham and La Salle. It'll be interesting to see whether the statistics, which seem to predict a big slide is coming, will be borne out. 

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Shawn Siegel's picture

TV Note

Game is not on at 7 on ESPN2 as was originally scheduled & noted above. Looks like it will be live on ESPNU and then repeated on ESPN2 at 11..

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Evan Dorey's picture

A fairly emphatic answer to

A fairly emphatic answer to my question, in that the Flyers were clearly better than the stats indicated. A very nice offensive performance; if they can keep that up, they'll be on an inside track for the A-10 title. Wright in particular with a very nice looking line.

Another key was keeping the Musketeers off the line, just 4 attempts for Xavier in the first half.

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Anonymous's picture

Great Win

It's about time. UD needed this win badly and played like it. Not only were they the better defensive team as everyone knew they would be, they outplayed the Muskies offensively as well. I would love to say that now Dayton will get the respect a team that has won 22 games and beaten the likes of Marquette and Xavier by double digits deserves...but it won't happen. Even Evan wrote above that he wouldn't be surprised "...to see the Flyers drop four or five games over the rest of the season." And that's fine, let the doubters doubt.

That being said, if this team had played the same schedule and gotten the same results while wearing a UMass, St. Joe's, or Temple jersey on their backs the debate of whether or not that team was worthy of a top 25 ranking or a bid to the dance would not even take place. When teams like Utah State, whose marquee win is over a 16-7 Utah and then doesn't have a W over a team ranked in the RPI top 80, are rewarded with a #17 ranking, the system is wrong.

Since the '06-'07 season, UD has racked up a whopping 64 wins. Included in those wins is a sweep of a home and away series with Louisville, a 25 pt. win over an undefeated Pitt, and a win over #12 Marquette this year. All that and UD has one postseason tournament to show for it: a quarterfinal appearance in the NIT last season. As a UD grad I am obviously quite biased on this subject, and I do apologize for the ranting and will even grant that my Flyers have shot themselves in the foot with horrible road losses, but the nation needs to open its eyes to these Flyers because they aren't going anywhere. And with guys like Chris Wright and Marcus Johnson, only a sophomore and junior respectively, they could be around for a long time.

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All you idiots on here do is

All you idiots on here do is talk about how great Xavier is. All people have done from day 1 is down and degrade Dayton. You don't get it do you. Let me spell it out for you moron. You make you comments about Chris Wright underperforming. Keep in mind he only sees like 25 minutes. Nivins, a nominee for A-10 MVP, sees 39.5 mimutes. If Chris Wright saw those kind of minutes, he would have stats like that or better. Chris Wright is NBA caliber and is just scratching the surface. he is one of college hoops best dunkers and is a rebounding and block machine. He also has played just over 1 year considering the injury. Marcus Johnson is also solid in that he can take it to the hoop, shoot it from anywhere on the floor, and plays great defense. Dayton ha another great dunker and senior leader in Little. They also have several key young players up and coming fast. Chris Johnson is also a dunker, quickly developing shooter, and grabs boards like its nothing. Dayton is solid whether you admit it or not.

yes Dayton is mostly young and has taken time to get experienced and gel, they have games where they don't click, and sometimes the way Gregory plays these guys in chopped up minimal minutes is very odd and takes them out of an offensive flow. That is because Gregory is an Izzo-ite_ and only sees defense and rebounding. Gregory is a phenominal recruit but could do better with the minutes. Just my opinion. If he did Dayton would be even further than where they have gotten themselves on raw talent and heart.

You guys really need to stop downplaying Dayton. If you don't fine, Dayton feeds on that stuff. Keep swing on Xavier's nuts. Doubters just give them more reason to prove something.

Whether you give them credit or not. Dayton is #1 in the A-10. Dayton has been a top 25 team since the season started whether you morons knew it or not. They fight hard and play with heart. They are a young team that shattered everyones expectations because they are truly talented. Chris Wright, who you put down, is a big part and so is Marcus Johnson. But they win as a team. They do whatever it takes to win. yes they have come up short a couple times and had off days. Who doesn't. Dayton has proved you wrong, will continue to do so, and will make you look like the idiot you are.

By the way the dude writing this looks like they are 14. So go to bed it is past you bed time, and leave the basketball discussion to the adults.

Fx Boss's picture

wfqw

Great post, totally agree with you on that point.

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