Rankings & Polls

Daily Poll: Which is Better, AP or Coaches Poll?

Shawn Siegel — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:58:20 -0800

Daily Poll: Which Undefeated Team Should Be #1?

Shawn Siegel — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:08:13 -0800

Poll: Which is Better - Poll, Pomeroy, RPI, or Sagarin?

Shawn Siegel — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:25:52 -0800

Siegel Quality Ranking: December Update

Shawn Siegel — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:44:32 -0800

Last year I unveiled the Siegel Quality Ranking. The concept is simple: College basketball scheduling is so amazingly uneven, that pure records mean nothing. The only wins that should count in determining a team's stature are "quality" wins against "quality" opponents, and losses should only hurt if they're against bad teams. A "quality" game is one of three things: A home game against a Top 50 RPI team, a Neutral game against a Top 100 team, and a Road win against a Top 150 team. Such wins are hard to come by and only the real NCAA Tournament contenders are able to win many. Wins in such "quality" games count as 1 point. The more points the better obviously. Losses in "quality" games count as -0.5. However, losses in "non-quality" games count as a full -1 point. These are considered "bad" losses. These "bad" losses are pretty rare for quality teams. Siegel Quality Ranking: December Update All 48 teams that received a vote in the AP or Coaches Polls are included in this first update. Quality Wins = Top 50 Home, Top 100 Neutral, Top 150 Road = 1 point Loss in Quality game = -.5 point. Loss in non-Quality game = -1 Record in quality games listed first, followed by bad losses (if any), then the total score. Ties are broken by giving the advantage to the team with the most quality wins. In case of a further tie in win-total, the advantage then goes to the team with the best quality winning percentage. 1. Miami (FL) 4-0 = 4 2. Arkansas 4-1 = 3.5 3. Gonzaga 4-2 = 3 4. Texas 3-0 = 3 5t. Dayton 3-1 = 2.5 5t. Holy Cross 3-1 = 2.5 5t.Rhode Island 3-1 = 2.5 5t. Xavier 3-1 = 2.5 9. Boston College 3-2 = 2 10. Michigan State 3-1 = 2 11t. Duke 2-0 = 2 11t. Georgetown 2-0 = 2 11t. Kansas 2-0 = 2 11t. Memphis 2-0 = 2 11t. North Carolina 2-0 = 2 11t.Sam Houston State 2-0 = 2 11t. Vanderbilt 2-0 = 2 11t. Washington State 2-0 = 2 19t. Butler 2-1 = 1.5 19t. California 2-1 = 1.5 19t. Indiana 2-1 = 1.5 19t. Saint Mary's 2-1 = 1.5 19t. Stanford 2-1 = 1.5 19t. Villanova 2-1 = 1.5 25. USC 3-2 = 2, -1 = 1 26t. Mississippi 1-0 = 1 26t. Pittsburgh 1-0 = 1 28t. Arizona 2-1 = 1.5, -1 = 0.5 28t. Louisville 2-1 = 1.5, -1 = 0.5 30t. Creigton 1-1 = 0.5 30t. Marquette 1-1 = 0.5 30t. Oregon 1-1 = 0.5 30t. Tennessee 1-1 = 0.5 30t. Texas A&M 1-1 = 0.5 30t. UCLA 1-1 = 0.5 30t. West Virginia 1-1 = 0.5 37t. BYU 1-2 = 0 37t. Florida State 1-2 = 0 37t. Virginia 1-2 = 0 40. Clemson 0-0 = 0 41t. Southern Illinois 1-3 = -0.5 41t. Syracuse 1-3 = -0.5 43. Florida 0-1 = -0.5 44. Connecticut 0-2 = -1 45. Wisconson 0-2 = -1 46. NC State 1-1, -2 = -1.5 47. Illinois 0-3 = -1.5 48. Davidson 0-5 = -2.5 Thoughts: Like the RPI itself, which takes time to really take shape as a meaningful tool, so does the Quality Ranking. With that said, we're already beginning to see overrated teams that have no business getting votes. Particularly down at the bottom, teams like Illinois and Davidson are mere pretenders. Interestingly at the top, the A10 teams are proving to be for real with 3 quality wins apiece. The lone team to not even play a quality game is not surprisingly Clemson, which notoriously pads its schedule with easy wins. Pitt and Florida aren't far behind with just one decent game so far.

Daily Dribble: BCS Power Ranking

Shawn Siegel — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:06:36 -0800

Following last week's High-Major & Mid-Major rankings, here is the complete 73 team BCS Power Ranking. Obviously a lot of potential NCAA Tournament teams in here, perhaps everyone in the Top 50 has a chance. The SEC is off to a very odd start, no one playing Top 10 basketball, yet its worst teams seem substantially better than the worst of the other leagues.

1. UNC 8-0 (ACC)

2. Kansas 9-0 (Big 12)

3. Texas 9-0 (Big 12)

4. Duke 9-0 (ACC)

5. UCLA 8-1 (Pac-10)

6. Georgetown 7-0 (Big East)

7. Washington State 9-0 (Pac-10)

8. Michigan State 8-1 (Big Ten)

9. Indiana 8-1 (Big Ten)

10. Marquette 6-1 (Big East)

11. Texas A&M 8-1 (Big 12)

12. Tennessee 8-1 (SEC)

13. Oregon 7-1 (Pac-10)

14. Pittsburgh 9-0 (Big East)

15. Clemson 8-0 (ACC)

16. Villanova 7-1 (Big East)

17. Vanderbilt 9-0 (SEC)

18. Notre Dame 7-2 (Big East)

19. Virginia 7-2 (ACC)

20. Arizona 6-2 (Pac-10)

21. Arkansas 7-1 (SEC)

22. Louisville 5-2 (Big East)

23. Connecticut 6-2 (Big East)

24. USC 6-3 (Pac-10)

25. Stanford 8-1 (Pac-10)

26. Baylor 6-1 (Big 12)

27. Miami 8-0 (ACC)

28. Kansas State 6-3 (Big 12)

29. West Virginia 7-1 (Big East)

30. Syracuse 6-3 (Big East)

31. Wisconsin 6-2 (Big Ten)

32. California 6-1 (Pac-10)

33. Missouri 6-3 (Big 12)

34. Ohio State 4-3 (Big Ten)

35. Boston College 7-1 (ACC)

36. Illinois 5-3 (Big Ten)

37. Florida 9-1 (SEC)

38. Purdue 5-2 (Big Ten)

39. Mississippi 7-0 (SEC)

40. Florida State 9-2 (ACC)

41. Oklahoma State 5-3 (Big 12)

42. Providence 6-3 (Big East)

43. Oklahoma 7-3 (Big 12)

44. NC State 4-3 (ACC)

45. Kentucky 4-3 (SEC)

46. Texas Tech 6-3 (Big 12)

47. South Carolina 5-4 (SEC)

48. Maryland 6-4 (ACC)

49. Washington 4-4 (Pac-10)

50. Seton Hall 7-2 (Big East)

51. Nebraska 6-2 (Big 12)

52. Alabama 5-3 (SEC)

53. Mississippi State 5-3 (SEC)

54. Georgia Tech 4-4 (ACC)

55. Georgia 6-1 (SEC)

56. Minnesota 6-1 (Big Ten)

57. Virginia Tech 5-3 (ACC)

58. LSU 5-3 (SEC)

59. Penn State 4-4 (Big Ten)

60. Arizona State 6-2 (Pac-10)

61. Auburn 4-2 (SEC)

62. Colorado 5-4 (Big 12)

63. South Florida 7-3 (Big East)

64. Michigan 3-6 (Big Ten)

65. St. John's 4-1 (Big East)

66. Wake Forest 5-3 (ACC)

67. DePaul 2-3 (Big East)

68. Iowa 6-5 (Big Ten)

69. Rutgers 6-3 (Big East)

70. Iowa State 4-4 (Big 12)

71. Cincinnati 4-4 (Big East)

72. Oregon State 4-3 (Pac-10)

73. Northwestern 4-4 (Big Ten)

Daily Poll: Is #22 Saint Mary's For Real?

Shawn Siegel — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:41:01 -0800

Daily Poll: With UCLA Losing, Who Should Be #1?

Shawn Siegel — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 07:43:43 -0800

Poll: Is Marquette a Top 25 Team?

Shawn Siegel — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:15:26 -0800

Pac-10 Preseason Media Poll

Press Release — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:46:19 -0700

UCLA PICKED TO DEFEND PAC-10 TITLE IN 2007-08

LOS ANGELES--The UCLA Bruins are picked to finish first in the 2007-08 Pacific-10 Conference Men’s basketball race, according to a poll of media members who cover Pac-10 men’s basketball. The poll shows that UCLA, the defending Pac-10 Champion, gathered 33 first-place votes and is picked the favorite this season. WASHINGTON STATE picked up the remaining first-place vote and is tabbed for second place. It’s the highest placing for the Cougars since the media poll started in 1992-93 (Their previous best was fourth in 1995-96). OREGON, the defending Pacific Life Pac-10 Tournament Champion, is slotted for third place, followed closely by ARIZONA. STANFORD is picked for fifth, followed by USC, CALIFORNIA and WASHINGTON. Rounding out the preseason poll is ARIZONA STATE in ninth, followed by OREGON STATE.

THE 2007-08 PAC-10 MEN’S BASKETBALL MEDIA POLL

Team Pts.
1. UCLA (33) 339
2. Washington State (1) 273
3. Oregon 240
4. Arizona 238
5. Stanford 205
6. USC 184
7. California 140
8. Washington 132
9. Arizona State 81
10. Oregon State 38

First place votes in parentheses

Daily Poll: Who Will Win the Big Ten?

Shawn Siegel — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 06:17:09 -0700