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i look at sheyer and think jj reddick,reddick had the 3 but he is nothing in the nba
just my 2 cents
I almost titled mine the poor man's JJ Redick as your post wasn't up yet. I thought the same thing, he is JJ Redick without a shot (and a bit more passing ability maybe). so what the heck can you do with that?
I'd say no. He is not all that athletic and can't shoot lights out (like a JJ Redick). His A/T ratio is very misleading. Of course you aren't going to turn the ball over if you are taking better than 50% of your shots from 3 point range (46 of 89 FG attempts). Will he get tryouts? Sure, but he really lacks the ability to drive on people to make it to the next level (IMO).

is so glutted with PFs and Cs, and the crop of ball-handling guard is so thin, that Scheyer will get drafted IMO. He may not stick around for 10 or even 5 years, but I can see him carving out a niche as a complementary PG with size off the bench, for a team that has a new-school scoring lead guard (e.g. Monta Ellis).
I mean, he's good enough to get drafted in most years; but he definitely will benefit from the supply-demand of this draft.
Don't think he'll be a superstar but I think he can do some things at the next level. And in regards to his athleticism you won't catch him doing backflips up and down the street but it's not like he's some stiff; I don't think you can be successful in a league like the ACC without some athleticism.
I just have seen him play, and he hasn't shot all that well and that really takes away value and I don't see him as a top 60 player headed to the draft. Might a team gamble and draft him? maybe... Will he get some looks at camps? Absolutely. I just don't think there is enough there to end up with a team playing any significant minutes.
He won't be a star but he will play in the NBA. And I think he can be successful. His basketball IQ will certainly help out at the next level. If you need proof that athleticism isn't everything in the League take a look at Nate Robinson decorating the Knicks bench.

John Scheyer John Scheyer is a good college player but his skill don't translate to the NBA well at all.If he were a light out shooter like J.J Redick then he certainly would but he isn't a good shooter when he is covered and he can't shoot that well off the dribble in college although he has an excellent form an stroke. To be a point gaurd in the NBA or even a two guard you must be either very quick, althletic, or a lights out shooter, or superoior floor genenral.Not only is Scheyer neither he has very little upside, he is a denfensive liability in the NBA because he is too weak and too slow. Not to mention he can't attack the basket. As for athleticism not meaning anything if John Scheyer had Nate Robinson's athleticism we wouldn't even be discussing this because he would be a lottery pick automatically. It means alot because if Nate Robinson wasn't althletic at 5'8" he wouledn't be in the NBA and let us not forget he is sitting on the bench this year because of his poor decision making but he proved last year he can be an excellent scorer but not many teams would be willing to let him iso like allan iverson in his hey day.

Scheyer is one of college basketball's most underrated players. If he continues to perform like he has, he will have an excellent shot at making the draft. Plus, he's really cute!

first of all dont talk crap about jj redick he get 21 minutes per game and averages 9 pts per game behind vc and when he plays over 40 minutes he averages 20.5 pts per game so dont talk shit we u dont know nuthin bout him and on sheyer he is averagin 19 ppg and 6.5apg leading the ncaa in a/to ratio and (3fg% 43%) (fg% 46%) (ft% 90%)and 1 spg and good D and excellent IQ to add to all that so to me thats pretty good but of course athletism is the case in the nba but there is some players that aint that athletic in the nba to me to like manu ginobli, steve nash, ray allen,chris duhon he kinda is,luke ridnour whos been doin pretty good lately, im not saying he will be a star but he has got a good work ethic and wants to do good so i think he will be a good sixth man but we will c how this season turns out
Just the fact that you say Ray Allen and Steve Nash "ain't" athletic is funny to me. Jon Sheyer is probably going to get drafted, but I beleive he is probably going to ride the bench and won't be much mroe than a 10 minute off the bench guy. Maybe he'll prove me wrong, maybe not.
Check out some ray allen dunks on youtube... is he kobe bryant? no, but Jon Sheyer can't touch all those guys you mentioned, including JJ who is a superior shooter.

ok i didnt say he was half as good as those guys ray allen maybe use to be athletic but he is not ne more show me a nasty dunk with him in a celtics uniform not a supersonics or bucks uniform im pretty sure if jon scheyer wanted to dunk he could just like jj did in that game when he did a two handed dunk with ease but whatever jon im pretty sure if he keeps improving then he will play some if shavlik randolph can make it to the nba i think jon scheyer could yea the height is different but if he can get a little pt now he is at portland i think scheyer could somewhere
but was in a DUNK CONTEST. I just think there is not a comparison between Sheyer and any of the people you have mentioned so is therefore irrelivent information. I'll say it again, he'll end up on a roster, but a true prospect? He is nothing more than a role player if that.

First of all to play in Division 1 you have to be athletic. Is Scheyer going to blow around people...NO...but can he beat people off the dribble...YES! He is a very smart player who not only passes well, which is something that Reddick who is one of my fav. duke players did not do well, but he can shoot the ball too. Will he be a star in the NBA, NO, but he will be a very good complementary guard for a team who knows how to play smart. He can shoot, great free throws, and passes well. But there are a lot of people in the NBA who are not the most athletic people but still play well with the stars and franchise players of the teams. Look for him to surprise you more than Reddick did.

If Kirk Hinrich can play in the nba then Scheyer can play in the nba.

MATT CARROLL
STEVE BLAKE
KEITH BOGANS
KIRK HINRICH
JASON HART
ACIE LAW
KEVIN OLLIE (12 YEARS IN THE NBA)
CHRIS QUINN
BRIAN SCALABINE (WHAT A JOKE!!)
ENOUGH SAID.

He's better than everyone on that list but Kirk Hinrich.

Scheyer... forget about the consistent comments bout his high IQ, etc...watch him and ull notice his flaws.
1) look at his stats against ACC opp, most of his stats are inflated bc of the non-conf schedule. Against legit teams this year his athleticism has been exposed & his shooting has been terrible.
2) NOLAN SMITH (currently hes the best duke prospect & he lacks the respect he truly deserves) brings the ball up, and scheyer runs the half court offense. Scheyer only is given the task of bringing the ball up while playing non-conf opp, against ACC opp Smith is favored to bring the ball up.
3) hes made it (Basketball IQ is a possibility) in the ACC bc of Coach Ks great system, his stats are a byproduct of a player that fits great into Ks system.
4)he doesnt compare to hinrich (hinrich is quick, can create his own shot, can dribble & can play defense) & JJ Red (JJ is a better pure shooter than scheyer & is much better creating his own shot than scheyer).
5)the NBA...athleticism matters, however there are exceptions, but in general its athleticism thats valued. Scheyer gets a majority of his pts off of FT's and most are a result that hes extremely weak or fragile while he takes his shot.
6)he cant play defense, r u serious? he would get blown by any guard (cp3 or deron williams, it wont matter the size of the guard), his lateral movt is terrible (its noted in a lot of draft profiles)...HE IS A DEFENSIVE LIABILITY.
Nolan Smith is really underrated on that DUKE team, singler (singler is a better prospect than scheyer) & scheyer get the press, but i still can see scheyer making an NBA team. Possibly getting drafted (hes sort of the tim tebow (the qb w/o the arm) of Col BB, a team will just draft him so he can feel that he accomplished his boyhood dream).
*ive always been curious how he would be if he put on a few pounds. i guess ill never know...
He would be more successful overseas, i see him playin in the NBA at most 3 yrs.
he came from my hometown, and it would be great to see him get drafted and play in the nba. We all like his character, hard work, etc...,however reality bites...
*btw his natural intelligence is fairly limited according to rumors...he only made as far as Algebra I in hs, and his excellent shooting touch is a byproduct of his father money purchasing a private trainer to train him... THese are rumors, and personally i know he's a great person. He practices occasionally with the bulls over the summer.

no i played a different sport, i guess i avoided playing scheyer. it wouldve been an ugly game. it was disappointing that after we won the state title his jr yr, we lost in his sr. yr. Unfortunately we played an nba prospect named Derrick Rose.

Finally, being appreciated for the great all-around player he really is.
Mr. Smooth. Mr. Inside or Outside. Shoots 3's, takes it to the hoop, lots of assists with few turnovers. 90% free-thrower. Averages 19 points per game which is highest on Duke team. "Athleticism" is over-rated. Knowing how to play the game well, be a team player and play-maker, and a consistent producer of points, assists and rebounds is underrated. Knocking 3 opponents on the floor and dunking the ball so hard the backboard breaks is NOT what the game is about. Go watch truck-pulling if you like musclebound hulks.
Jon Scheyer will not only MAKE it in the NBA, he could be another John Stockton--only taller.

Scheyer would be good back up guard in the NBA-will give the starting point guard a few breather minutes while being able to run the offense without turning over the ball. Defensively he should be able to contain most back-ups but if he gets matched up on a guy like Chauncy Billips or Baron Davis who can take him down to the post...he's toast. Zone defense in the NBA will take pressure off him because he won't have to defend a bigger guard if they choose to take him down in the post. He'll be fine defending on the perimeter.

Jon Scheyer's better then Matt Harping.

Scheyer will be in the NBA. He might not be a 1st round draft pick be he will be a PRO. I've heard criticism about how he is slow and cant shoot and isnt a leader, but watch any Duke basketball game and you'll see Jon beating guys off the dribble, finishing and ones, busting threes from any angle, and LEADING his team victory most nights. He may not be DOMINANT EVERY night but he is always there to hit a clutch shot or set up the deciding play that wins duke the game. Scheyer may not be able to head butt the rim but i heard similiar crap talked about tyler hansbrough and how he was going to be a late second round draft pick to not drafted and what do you know he went in the 1st round.Scheyer is possibly another JJ Redick but is that a bad thing? JJ Pro career is halted by the team he went to, its Dwight and Jameer team and now VC. So jj only gets garbage minutes on MOST nights. Plus Jon is a SMART player some of the players in this draft are getting by on their physical attributes alone and it will hurt them at the PRO level but Scheyer wil be a solid PRO.

yo, the only reason people say he wont do good is because he is white. If his skin was black, he would be a top 10 consideration. HE CAN DRIVE THE BALL IN THE PAINT! All JJ redick could do was shoot 3's. there's a big difference. and he's a point gaurd that can pass and has handles. you ppl make me sick, comparing him to another white duke player. If anything, he's like a Jameer Nelson.

Scheyer is mah nigga...hes got da 3 point touch and can take it to the hoop with reckless abandon. There are weight rooms in the nba for all you retards so he will get bigger. he is the acc player of the year and in order to play for DUKE, you have to be athletic..i could see mah man droppin 15 pts and 7 assts for a team like the bobcats...hes a straight balla and he be droppin dem dimes
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